Anyway, the path he takes is four and a half years, and gives him a certificate as a trained carpenter and a high school diploma at the same time, so that if he wishes to go study later on in life to become e.g. architect, he doesn't need to take any additional classes before enrolling into that education.
The carpenter training is mixed school and apprenticeship throughout those years. During the first apprentice period, each apprentice gets his own set of standard tools from the carpenter. These tools are normally supplied in a rectangular plywood box. If you read the description of the idea/regulation behind the carpenter training, it is stated that during the first apprentice period, the apprentice should be given the possibility to make his own tool chest for the standard tool set, so that he can bring those tools with him for the coming school periods.
Most apprentices just use the standard plywood box. Some will try to make a few divisions in the box and maybe a tool rack of some sort. I had told Gustav that I'd be more than happy to make a small class for him and a friend where they could each build a DTC.
I milled wood for 3 chests, and bought hardware for them too, but for some reason the friend was unable to participate anyway, so we ended up just building two chests. One for me and one for Gustav.
I tried to work a little bit faster than him so he could look at my chest for the next step in the process, but I tried to mainly work on it while Gustav was also in the shop. I showed him the different possibilities such as breadboard ends or battens to keep the panels flat, and how the edges could be treated using a router, a rabbet plane or just a chamfer.
When the chests were complete, Gustav really took off fitting the interior of his chests with tool racks and special holding arrangements for saws and squares etc. I didn't have any special ideas for what tools I wanted to put into my chest, so I just made a chisel rack mainly to show Gustav how one could be made.
At that point whenever Gustav's friends came by for a chat or a cup of coffee, they would as always start out in the shop, and Gustav would proudly show them his DTC with tools and lockable panel and all.
All the friends were awestruck. you could practically see the envy in their eyes. When Gustav demonstrated opening the lid and removed the two sliding battens to open up the front. It might as well have been the "Resolute desk of the movie National treasure".
With his chest complete, He felt that it was too nice to be painted and he opted for varnishing instead. He plans to use the Holsteiner breed logo as a mark, to identify which ones are his tools, so he started up painting it on the lid before the varnishing.
This might sound corny, but I think that I am just as proud as Gustav is. Helping your son to build a tool chest is an incredibly fine and meaningful way to spend some time together. And I enjoyed every minute of the build seeing his skills grow through the project.
Gustav's chest
Dovetailed drawers to the left
Batten /dust seal holds the lid flat
Holsteiner horse breed logo
The unfinished chest is mine..
You both did a beautiful job, and it looks like Gustav has a good future in front of him!
ReplyDeleteHi Andy
DeleteThanks for the nice comment.
I think that both chests came out nice too.
Gustav seems to enjoy every day as a carpenters apprentice, so I am confident that he has made the right choice of career.
Brgds
Jonas
That's a clever solution to housing the framing square. I also like how the drawers reinforce the batten slots. I do wish you had posted a close up of the block plane holder. Is it made from two pieces of shaped wood?
ReplyDeleteHi Mitchel
DeleteWe had to shorten the long end of the framing square by 1.5", but by doing that it could just fit inside the chest.
We weren't able to make room for the 40" level inside, so we have discussed putting on some sort of holding system on the back of the chest for that.
The block plane holder is made from two pieces of shaped wood, and each piece is made up from 2 strips and one triangle as far as I remember.
I'll ask Gustav to take a close up picture of it for the blog.
Brgds
Jonas
Bravo, to both of you. So many good things going on here. No doubt this time together will be a solid memory every time he shows off the clever compartments to others
ReplyDeleteThanks Jeremy
DeleteI thought about copying your clever lid system, but I decided to play safe and go with the regular hinges version for this time.
I am sure that if I show your solution to Gustav, he'll want to build another chest with that lid.
Coming to think of it, didn't you once have a video of your lid in action?
Brgds
Jonas
Bravo, to both of you. So many good things going on here. No doubt this time together will be a solid memory every time he shows off the clever compartments to others
ReplyDeleteGodt arbejde! Det ser virkelig fint ud.
ReplyDelete... og det minder mig om at jeg stadig har lidt arbejde at gøre med, at få lavet en holder til min egen blokhøvl og et par andre småting.
Hej Mikkel.
DeleteTak, det er faktisk et meget hyggeligt lille projekt. Jeg har indtil videre brugt min til at opbevare reservedele til hestedækner i.
Gustav ville tage et billede af holderen til blokhøvlen, så hvis du har lyst kan du få lidt inspiration der.
Mvh
Jonas
Mageløst projekt, så fint. Gustav kommer til at starte på den uddannelse med et kæmpe forspring. Kan klart relatere til glæden ved at kunne lære sin søn noget af håndens arbejde
ReplyDeleteHej Ty
DeleteTak for den søde kommentar.
Han har det som en fisk i vandet der hvor han er i lære, og EU delen er bare vildt smart fundet på.
De får ikke en klassisk studentereksamen, idet der ikke undervises i oldtidskundskab, billedkunst, historie etc. Men matematik, dansk, engelsk og fysik osv. får de. Jeg tror sgu også at jeg havde valgt den vej hvis muligheden havde eksisteret da jeg var færdig med folkeskolen.
Mange hilsner
Jonas
Ja lige netop den kombination havde været optimal for mig også hvis det havde fandtes dengang. Brugbart og relevant undervisning som man kan gå lige ud og bruge.
DeleteHeld og lykke til Gustav!
Hej Ty
Deletejeg kom lige til at se at jeg kun havde skrevet EU og ikke EUX, men X tasten slider lidt på mit keyboard :-)
Men det er en vildt god idé, det med at man anerkender at der er nogle derr gerne vil kunne et håndværk, og måske engang kunne læse videre uden at man nødvendigvis skal tage en HF eller supplerende kurser for at kunne komme ind på et studie.
Skolegangen er godt nok lidt presset på EUX, for der er en del lektier og samtidig har de en dag mindre i værkstedet end EUD eleverne. Men alt i alt en virkelig god mulighed for en bred uddannelse.
Gustav læser løbende kommentarerne på det her indlæg, og han synes at alle folk er vildt flinke sådan at kommentere og rose hans projekt.
Mvh
Jonas
Jonas and Gustav,
ReplyDeleteCongrats on work well done. I wish the US had a school/apprentice program like yours, maybe some day.
BTW, while not a formal program my high school allowed a student to work half day and go to class the other half. I took advantage to become a certified medical lab tech by the time I finished high school and used that certification to work and pay my way through college and my pilot's certifications up to the CFI (instructor rating) so I could work as a pilot. It is a good way to get a leg up on the world.
ken
Hi Ken
DeleteThanks for the nice comment.
I am so glad that Maggie is OK. I know hard deep it would affect me if I had the same thing happening to me.
I just told Gustav about your comment, and he replied that he was proud that people liked his project. :-)
The work and study balance is a fantastic idea if you ask me. It gives Gustav some much needed cash, and he can immediately see the use of stuff that he is taught at the school.
And once you have completed your education, you are not estranged to the real world regarding jobs.
Best regards
Jonas
Gustav is already benefitting from having you as a mentor. It will enhance his education greatly.
ReplyDeleteJim B
Hi Jim
DeleteThanks for the nice comment.
I am proud to be able to help him. It feels right, if you know what I mean.
Brgds
Jonas
Awesome. Awesome project, awesome opportunity, and awesome results.
ReplyDeleteGustav has every reasons to be proud.
No matter what career path you follow, you must like what you do to becomes good at it. Enjoy the ride Gustav.
Kudos Jonas, your dad is smiling from above
Bob
Hi Bob
DeleteGustav told me to say thanks, he read your comment and he thinks that everyone are SO kind.
I think that you are right about my dad smiling from above. I hadn't thought about that until you mentioned it, but off course he does.
All the best.
Jonas
Hi Jonas! Everything looks great! Awesome work from both father and son! And congrats to the young man and good luck in his new apprenticeship. He has a pretty good teacher already, so he's ahead of the curve!!
ReplyDeleteYour Friend,
Bill
Hi Bill
DeleteThanks for your nice comment.
He has landed himself an apprenticeship at the kindest carpenter on the island where we live. First the apprenticeship was supposed to be for half a year (because that is the first period they are away from the school), but the carpenter was so happy with Gustav that he asked him if he wouldn't just sign up for the rest of time. Naturally Gustav was more than happy to do that, so now he is free from worries about where to get the next periods away from the school.
Needless to say, I was proud too.
The only thing I am afraid of is that he will pass me very soon, but I'll just have to try to learn from him then. :-)
Your friend
Jonas
Very cool project and great direction..
ReplyDeleteHi
DeleteThanks for the nice comment.
The possibility of getting a diploma and a certificate at the same time is a great idea (not something usually associated with the Danish ministry of education).
Brgds
Jonas
Nice tool chest. I am not sure I could do better.
ReplyDelete"The only thing I am afraid of is that he will pass me very soon, but I'll just have to try to learn from him then. :-) "
Don't we all try to make our child better then ourselves?
It is a great satisfaction to see our kids' success.
I just hope the school teacher is in the same spirit an has an open mind bout how to do things.
Hi Sylvain
DeleteThanks for the nice comment.
Yes we all wish for our children to become better than ourselves, And I am happy to be able to help him part of the way.
When he started out at the school last year, and suddenly the pandemic shut everything down. The school supplied the kids with materials for a few exercises. But they forgot that not all the kids had access to a shop. So Gustav invited all his classmates to come home to our place and they built the exercises at our place. So he definitely has an open mind to help other people.
The teachers seem to be very competent and like to teach to the highest standards, so that is nice.
Brgds
Jonas
I was speaking of the open mind of the teacher.
DeleteAh OK, :-)
DeleteThe teachers seem to be pretty OK in that respect.
Actually for the last say 10 years there has been something called the Danish championship of skills which is a national competition for pupils at trade schools. You make some sort of advanced timber project or bricklayer project depending on your education.
And the teachers like it is some of the pupils express interest in participating.
Brgds
Jonas
Helt fantastisk! I have built a DTC as well, but not to your standards. The school + apprenticeship program sounds useful, glad your son is enjoying it.
ReplyDeleteI'm also always happy to see posts about the Statsraad Lehmkuhl, I spent four years in Bergen, so I'm always a bit homesick :)
Thank you for sharing all of this!
Joe W.
Hei Joe
DeleteSå kjekt å høre fra deg.
I am so glad to hear that you enjoy the occasional postings from Statsraad Lehmkuhl. I am currently at sea on it.
We are going on a world circumnavigation this summer, so if you happen to live near any of the ports that we are going to visit, you will have a chance of seeing the ship again.
Here's a link to the event:
https://oneoceanexpedition.com/
Gustav's chest really did turn out well, it took a long time to build it because I was away at se for some periods and he also has to tend to his horse, but once in a while we were able to put in half a day's worth of work.
But I am glad that he didn't skimp on the build because now that it is done he is understandably very proud of it. And learning that things done properly might take some time is a good thing to learn while you are young - and especially those days where it is possible to find a Youtube video that will show you how to build a perfect table in less than 10 minutes.
Even if you know that the build is speeded up in the video, it is still hard to truly appreciate just how long time some operations take.
Best regards (from the North Sea on our way towards Shetland.)
Jonas