Why they have chosen that time frame I have no idea of, but as it happens, Statsraad Lehmkuhl has won the trophy 8 times.
Our ship is the current holder of the trophy, and due to that, the actual trophy is sitting on a shelf in the CEO's office.
The trophy itself is a copy of a teapot which was made by Paul Revere (yes, that Paul Revere!). Whenever we hold a meeting in the CEO's room, I find myself drawn to the box that holds the trophy.
Today after the meeting, I quickly snapped a few pictures of the box. I tried a little bit to remove the teapot, but I couldn't see a proper way of doing it, so I stopped before breaking something. While writing this, I got to think of that I think the correct way is to lift out the upper part (the teapot itself), and then remove the base.
I tried to pull a bit at the middle shelf surrounding the teapot.
Technically the trophy isn't part of the ship, but this is my blog, so I decide that it is OK anyway.
According to a link I found, the Trophy was established in 1964
You will be able to find some pictures of the teapot itself in the first link, but here are a couple of other pictures of some details of the box.
I can't see how the box itself is constructed, I mean if it is with secondary wood and veneered shell -or solid wood with blind dovetails. But the overall size of the box is something like 16" x 16" and 8" deep and inside it is lined with some dark blue velvet.
Neither of the screws are clocked which I find a bit strange, after all I am certain that the box was made by someone professional.
The original silver plate on the right hand door has nice engravings, whereas the new silver plate inside the lid has got some not so nice machine type engravings. This is to be expected,as engraving is not something that any goldsmith can do anymore as far as I have understood.
The bracket holding the top of the teapot in place is clearly made with a Forstner bit. I think that is the one detail that look the most out of place to me. Using a Forstner bit is OK to remove the material, but it wouldn't have taken much to take a spade bit of a similar size and ground it to a round shape. Then carefully rounded the bottom of the hole.
Now all this may sound as I am ungrateful for the Trophy which is not the case. Instead I would say that I find it intriguing that after having built stuff myself - I am able to see that not everything that was made 50-60 years ago was better than what could be built today.
Maybe the cabinetmaker tasked with the job had to work on a tight budget because the teapot itself had cost more than anticipated, so a bit had to be saved on the box. Or maybe it was someone who had never heard of clocking screws? We will probably never know.
Silver plate on top of the box.
The closed box.
Hinge stay, new silver plate visible inside the lid.
Description of the inspiration for the trophy.
Teapot lid holding bracket closed.
Let's just use a Forstner drill, no one will ever notice..
NO one will ever notice... Ha Ha they were not thinking about curious woodworkers around :-)
ReplyDeleteInteresting box and story, thanks for sharing
Bob, with Rudy back from the vet, clean bill of health
Hi Bob
DeleteThanks for the nice comment, and sorry for the late reply.
Brgds
Jonas
That's a neat box! I can see why you were drawn to it. I think the box is sapelle. It's hard to see if it is solid or just veneered. Also, I think I like the fact that the screws aren't clocked. I think this is not something that is too common in old furniture, but I could be wrong.
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DeleteI'll take your word for the Sapele.
I don't know when "clocking" came into fashion. So it could be that it is just made before that became popular.
And sorry for the late reply.
Brgds
Jonas
That could be an interesting project, in particular if you could somehow find a replica of the teapot!! I personally enjoy a well-made replica, as it is my own belief that antiques of historical value should be displayed publicly at museums etc. Though I am sure that people will accuse me of advocating a socialist takeover...I am not in the least..
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I digress. I also agree with Brian in that the "unclocked" screws don't bother me. Maybe because when I was a field electrician we used to catch hell for it.
What species wood do you think you might use to make it? Walnut would be nice, but I'm not sure how readily available it is to you..Then again...Jonas Jensen could make it a masterpiece from pallet wood...
Jonas, by the way this is your friend Mr Slightly Confused...for some reason my name did not show up on the comment..
DeleteHi Bill
DeleteThanks for the nice comment.
I never really considered building a replica, but I could actually see how that could be a fun project.
Brian thinks the wood is Sapele, but I am really not good at identifying exotic wood species.
I have never worked with walnut, but that could be fun to try, but I would have to pay some actual money for wood which would be hard for a tightwad like me to do.
A pallet wood build on the other hand could be the thing.
Maybe with some veneer.
There is just too good a social life on this ship, so I am not as drawn into the shop as previously at sea.
Btw, sorry for the very late reply.
Brgds
Jonas
Jonas,
ReplyDeleteI agree with Brian on both counts. It is an interesting box and the door at least looks very much like Ribbon Sapele. What's more interesting is you sail on a fast ship.
ken
ken
Hi Ken
DeleteThanks for the nice comment, and sorry for the late reply.
I am back on board, and at the moment we are participating it the "tall ships races". The first leg of the race is over, and we are on 1st place in our class.
So this really is a fast ship.
A funny thing is that since the ship originally was built as a training ship, it was built under rigged. So the hull could technically handle a rigging that was say 25% larger. That would have given even more speed, but it would have been harder to handle the sails.
The Danish training ship "Danmark" was built after the total loss of the training ship "København", which was a five mast barque. So when they built the "Danmark", they severely under rigged it.
So that ship doesn't really sail well.
But I guess that everyone was so affected by the tragedy that they wanted to prevent it from happening again.
Brgds
Jonas
Just found this article while trying to find a picture of the trophy...but disagree that the box was made by a professional, especially considering your assessment of its construction.
ReplyDeleteAside from repairing ships, Navy Damage Controlmen are the successors to the old ship's capenters and are often tasked with making various plaques and awards for the the ship's company. They often have routers, forstner bits, and engraving machines and do solid work, but usually don't have the time or skill to do really complex woodworking...although many do continue to perfect their craft after separating from service.
I'd guess that the teapot was given to Italy in a simple box from the manufacturer and physically handed to Germany. Germany had it for a couple years...and of course it eventually came back to the US with Eagle who definitely had woodshop aboard to repair and maintain the wooden brightwork and nameboards abord (and still does today).
Rather than a professional cabinetmaker, I bet some ship's Damage Controlmen somewhere along the line were tasked with making a case for it when it came time to send it to another ship...and perhaps even successive Damage Controlmen adding the lining, history (from Brooke Bond Ltd), and newer plates...
Hi KMatsuoka
DeleteThanks for your kind and interesting comment.
We have carpenters on The Statsraad Lehmkuhl as well, but I still believe that although they could make a box, I am fairly sure that it wasn't made by a ships carpenter/repairman.
The Teapot Trophy is stewarded by the organisation Sail Training International, and here's a link to a description from 2023 with a bit of background information as well:
https://sailtraininginternational.org/sailtraining/news/stasraad-lehmkuhl-wins-boston-teapot-trophy/
Brooke Bond Tea obtained permission to have a copy made (the one that is the Teapot Trophy), and my opinion is that they would have had someone making a presentation box for the trophy as soon as it was fabricated.
On Lehmkuhl, we never sail with the trophy on board. It is always kept in the administrations office on shore. While I can't speak for all the tall ships in the world, I would still guess that they do it similarly. So the teapot would probably never have been onboard a ship for more than a phot session, and that is another reason why I doubt that the box was made on board one of the ships.
The silver pot is the main trophy, it is just that I am a woodworking guy (beside being a marine engineer) so that was why I was more curious about the box than the actual trophy. I doubt that it would be made in a different way if I had to do it, except for probably clocking the screws. I think that I would probably also tell myself that nobody will look at the box, but rather at the trophy, and then I'd be content with that.
Brgds Jonas
DeleteJust found another article/image of the box from 2014.
https://www.estadomayor.mx/38871
It looks like a completely different box to me (different base, hinges, doors, no stay, and no forstnered bracket)...as well with as a different top to the trophy and no ding...so guessing even if it's not stored aboard, it was still getting jostled about getting shipped from boat to boat every year...
There might have been an original box that has been repaired and remade over the years with cannibalised parts by subsequent boat/shore crews...but unlikely the box you saw was the original presentation box from 1966.
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